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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:02 am

Lavallin wrote:I've picked up a game for this week, but very happy to play next week. I'm almost certainly going to focus Imperial, but keep the Chaos fleet as an opfor for when I want a small pick-up game. I shall serve the Emperor faithfully, and put my trust in Him on Holy Terra to protect my immortal soul; I am weak and have strayed from the true path on occasion throughout my life, but I am not prepared to throw in my lot with the Ruinous Powers!

I think a campaign, possibly with some sort of Escalation element to it, would be great. My suggestion would be for all players to commit to a minimum of one game per month, with a small (but hopefully non game-breaking) bonus for playing more; points limits something like 500/750/1000 for March/April/May, with a massed battle some time in June to conclude?


Great idea, and I'm well up for that.

Great that the prebuilt fleet included 2 Lunar cruisers, the workhorse and backbone of the Imperial fleet! :)
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Lavallin » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:04 pm

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Lavallin wrote:I've picked up a game for this week, but very happy to play next week. I'm almost certainly going to focus Imperial, but keep the Chaos fleet as an opfor for when I want a small pick-up game. I shall serve the Emperor faithfully, and put my trust in Him on Holy Terra to protect my immortal soul; I am weak and have strayed from the true path on occasion throughout my life, but I am not prepared to throw in my lot with the Ruinous Powers!

I think a campaign, possibly with some sort of Escalation element to it, would be great. My suggestion would be for all players to commit to a minimum of one game per month, with a small (but hopefully non game-breaking) bonus for playing more; points limits something like 500/750/1000 for March/April/May, with a massed battle some time in June to conclude?


Great idea, and I'm well up for that.

Great that the prebuilt fleet included 2 Lunar cruisers, the workhorse and backbone of the Imperial fleet! :)


Actually, I think I posted that wrong the first time: I've got two ships which are all Batteries, and two which are all Lances - possibly Gothic Class?
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:31 pm

All lances are Gothic, all batteries are Tyrants or Dictators (I think...). A squadron of 2 ships where one pounds the shields, then the Gothic uses the lances, work great :D
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Stu's Idle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:43 pm

My Orks arrived today. It's a large fleet but I know next to nothing about how it works therefore an escalation style campaign sounds good to me, possibly after a game or two more with people who know what they're doing.
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Postby Jamrowski » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:11 pm

I'm in - 'Dirty' Tau for me (or possibly the Eldar that I've never used.......)
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Vyper » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:23 pm

I'm up for it. Will be playing Imperials, different Imperials or Tyranids (possibly).

When do we start?
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:59 pm

Latest additions to my BFG forces... an Armageddon class Battlecruiser and Mechanicus Light Cruiser (guns not yet fitted!).

Both bought as a bit of a gamble from a 3D printing service, and they look pretty great! Along with the Vengeance Grand Cruiser and the Lunar Cruiser I'm currently painting, I'm raring to go, and waiting for move day so I can break the rest of my fleet out of mothballs! :D

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Postby Vyper » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:25 am

They look pretty nice! What's your colour scheme going to be?
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:44 pm

Vyper wrote:They look pretty nice! What's your colour scheme going to be?


The Armageddon will be the same as my other Imperial ships- black and blue, gold highlights :D

Not sure about the mechanicus cruiser yet- possibly a red, silver and gold.

Considering putting in another order with the same company in the next couple of months, if anyone else interested in combining postage costs from US. :)

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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Vyper » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:25 pm

Ha, I've got enough actual ships to paint up for now!! Although the AdMech light cruiser is tempting...
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Postby Stu's Idle » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:28 pm

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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Lavallin » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:03 pm

Right, I've now got enough ships (technically, some are still in the post...) that I think I can build a sensible fleet, with a Battleship, 4 Cruisers, and a range of Escorts. And I've magnetised some of the Cruiser weapons, where I could easily break apart the previous assembly.

That said, I've got no idea what a good fleet looks like, nor even what a sensible points level is. The book suggests 500-750 for a smaller battle, and 1000-1500 for a larger battle. Are these roughly what people normally play?

If so, I'd be keen to try something like a 750pt Round Robin, just as a cobweb-clearing and rules-embedding process, prior to starting a 'proper' campaign. Would people be free either next Weds (5th) or the following (12th)? I'd be happy to press on with 4 people available, but 6 would be preferable.
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Postby Vyper » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:37 pm

I am free and would be happy to play on either (or both) of those dates.

In the long run, I prefer games on the upper end of that scale in order to make use of some splashier ships - battleships, grand cruisers etc. 1,500 seems like a sweet spot.

Regarding sensible, always buy your admiral at least one re-roll, have a mixture of batteries and lances and at least 4 launch bays per 750pts.
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:12 pm

Vyper wrote:I am free and would be happy to play on either (or both) of those dates.

In the long run, I prefer games on the upper end of that scale in order to make use of some splashier ships - battleships, grand cruisers etc. 1,500 seems like a sweet spot.

Regarding sensible, always buy your admiral at least one re-roll, have a mixture of batteries and lances and at least 4 launch bays per 750pts.


Solid advice, to which I would add- don't ignore the escorts. Versatile and very important late game in outflanking and finishing off crippled cruisers and the like.

Ditto on the 1500 points, that equates to 5-6 cruisers (for most fleets), with a smattering of escorts and rerolls.

12th better for me currently. Also, I might have to borrow a few ships- my available fleet currently stands at a Vengeance Grand Cruiser, a Lunar cruiser (both unbased I think!), and the 2 unpainted ships I've posted pics of ;)

Did dig through my storage unit the other day but my gaming goodies obviously buried right at the back! Hope to be able to field Imperial or Chaos fleets (as required) by May though
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Lavallin » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:53 pm

Vyper wrote:Regarding sensible, always buy your admiral at least one re-roll, have a mixture of batteries and lances and at least 4 launch bays per 750pts.


4 launch bays? Crikey. Is that in terms of physical, configured bays, or would 2x strength 2 count? Only one of my ships is currently scoped to have launch bays (magnetised and able to act as a Dictator Class Cruiser). If I can find one on eBay (or an unassembled Cruiser) I was also considering adding a Mars Battlecruiser to my fleet at some point, but that's still an "at some point" buy.

Shall we say 12th for 'proper' 1500pt games, with some smaller 750pt games on the 5th for anyone who wants to push just a couple of ships around and re-learn the rules?
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Vyper » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:04 pm

Lavallin wrote:4 launch bays? Crikey. Is that in terms of physical, configured bays, or would 2x strength 2 count? Only one of my ships is currently scoped to have launch bays (magnetised and able to act as a Dictator Class Cruiser). If I can find one on eBay (or an unassembled Cruiser) I was also considering adding a Mars Battlecruiser to my fleet at some point, but that's still an "at some point" buy.

Shall we say 12th for 'proper' 1500pt games, with some smaller 750pt games on the 5th for anyone who wants to push just a couple of ships around and re-learn the rules?


That sounds good to me.

I meant in terms of overall capacity so 2x2 would count as 4 launch bays. That typically works out as one ship with carrier capacity for every 3 or 4 capital ships in the fleet. Personally I've got a Dictator, Mars, Exorcist grand cruiser as my main carriers.

Dictators are generally considered to be a decent ship to have around anyway as they can reload their Torps and their Attack Craft in one go! The Mars is also a bit of a workhorse and brings a little of everything.

I'll take a look at what spare bits I have lying around and will try and make a small donation to the Imperial cause on Monday. ;)
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:10 am

Vyper wrote:
Lavallin wrote:4 launch bays? Crikey. Is that in terms of physical, configured bays, or would 2x strength 2 count? Only one of my ships is currently scoped to have launch bays (magnetised and able to act as a Dictator Class Cruiser). If I can find one on eBay (or an unassembled Cruiser) I was also considering adding a Mars Battlecruiser to my fleet at some point, but that's still an "at some point" buy.

Shall we say 12th for 'proper' 1500pt games, with some smaller 750pt games on the 5th for anyone who wants to push just a couple of ships around and re-learn the rules?


That sounds good to me.

I meant in terms of overall capacity so 2x2 would count as 4 launch bays. That typically works out as one ship with carrier capacity for every 3 or 4 capital ships in the fleet. Personally I've got a Dictator, Mars, Exorcist grand cruiser as my main carriers.

Dictators are generally considered to be a decent ship to have around anyway as they can reload their Torps and their Attack Craft in one go! The Mars is also a bit of a workhorse and brings a little of everything.

I'll take a look at what spare bits I have lying around and will try and make a small donation to the Imperial cause on Monday. ;)


I have a couple of Dictator's and Mars in my Imperial fleet. Point for point, both great ships.

Mars especially versatile, can sit back and chuck out bombers and pot shot with the Nova Cannon, or get in close and use it's guns.

I have a couple of Emperor's for the bigger games though, fantastic flagships and carriers.
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Vyper » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:49 pm

So, might be bringing an extra player down on Wednesday. :)
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Kingpenguin » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:00 am

Ok, so how does everyone want to kick this off? I don't want to make it admin happy straight off the bat. I'd prefer to do a narrative map-based campaign, but I think we should bring on the newcomers for starters and give everyone a chance to get their fleets ready. I propose we do a round robin for a month or so, where everyone can get in as many small games as possible, followed by a turn based campaign over the summer which I will coordinate. I also propose that we have some sort of centre piece battle to finish off. I welcome any suggestions with the aim of putting something together by mid-April. What do you all think?
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Postby nightwing » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:03 pm

Kingpenguin wrote:Ok, so how does everyone want to kick this off? I don't want to make it admin happy straight off the bat. I'd prefer to do a narrative map-based campaign, but I think we should bring on the newcomers for starters and give everyone a chance to get their fleets ready. I propose we do a round robin for a month or so, where everyone can get in as many small games as possible, followed by a turn based campaign over the summer which I will coordinate. I also propose that we have some sort of centre piece battle to finish off. I welcome any suggestions with the aim of putting something together by mid-April. What do you all think?


Excellent plan gives everyone a chance to learn or refresh the rules.
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Kingpenguin » Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:49 pm

OK, who is in? Could I please have your name and what fleet you are thinking of using, plus the maximum points that you think you can make. I'm happy for people to do some experimenting, so don't need a final firm answer until the end of April. Cheers
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Vyper » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:16 pm

Name: Peter Acs
Fleet: Imperial - approx 3,000pts at the moment but likely to be ramped up!

Alternatively, I do have a 'Nid fleet in the works that may or may not be ready by then. I'm somewhat reticent though due to the FAQ substantially altering the fleet composition so that "The fleet must have at least six escort drones for every hiveship in the fleet."

This makes fleet composition pretty boring and same-y and I was wondering if people would be okay with waiving that bit of the FAQ?
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Postby Lavallin » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:38 pm

Count me in.

Alex; I'll also be bringing an Imperial fleet. Not sure about max points, but once all my eBay purchases finally arrive, it'll be... plenty. Potentially 3k+ as well.
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Postby nightwing » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:40 pm

Name: Matt Wells
Fleet: Chaos- 2000 pts + I believe or Imperial- 3000 pts + (I will take whichever is least represented to ensure a good balance in the campaign!)

And re the Tyranid fleet- I'll have to refresh my memory on fleet composition. Off the top of my head, waiving or relaxing that FAQ rule seems reasonable so I'd have no objections
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Postby Stu's Idle » Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:58 pm

Stu; Orks 3K+. Could really do with someone who has any experience of Orks giving me some pointers.
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Vyper » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:21 am

Stu's Idle wrote:Stu; Orks 3K+. Could really do with someone who has any experience of Orks giving me some pointers.


We can barely play our own lists Stu! ;)

So, I've done a bit of digging, and it seems there are multiple Ork fleet lists:

1. Ork Pirates of the Cyclops Cluster

This is found in the BFG core rulebook and is a really simple fleet list. It uses the double boarding values for Ork Warlords, only has Kroozers and Escorts and is pretty flexible in terms of composition.


2. Third Armageddon War, Ork WAAAGH!

This is found in the Armada rulebook and is much more complete. Again you have the double boarding value for warlords, multiple warlords purchasable and all the rules for Battlekroozers/ships, Roks, Space hulks etc. I would generally use this list over the Pirates list in the main rulebook.


3. Da Ork Clanz

This is found in the 2010 FAQ p154 (http://www.ateliergaumais.be/BFG/BFG_FAQ_extension.pdf) and represents lots of minor warlords coming together. It has a lot of the special rules you mentioned, including increased squadron sizes for escorts, free escorts for low LD squadrons, bonus LD for escort squadrons, swapping LD values for the Warlord's ship and so on!

The list building restrictions are a little weird as effectively you are building a mini fleet per 500pts to represent each warlord bringing their own stash of ships and is a lot more Escort focused.


Whichever list you used, you probably ought to read the FAQ on pages 26-27 which cover rules for Fighta-Bommas as well as the 'fixed' escort profiles.
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby Kingpenguin » Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Excellent responses so far. Could I ask that you all put together some back stories for your admirals? For the sake of continuity we'll be campaigning in and around the Auralian Gulf. Feel free to make up planets and station names as you see fit. Please PM them to me before the end of April so that I can put something together that is a surprise to you all. I will be trying to encorporate the campaign rules starting on page 148 in the BFG core rule book (trying being the key word). If you have any sub plots or anything narrative wise that you want to try and draw out of the campaign, please let me know and I will try to draw these out. Also if anyone wants to volunteer to prepare some terrain for narrative purposes, please feel free. I have made quite a bit myself, including a space cloth, so I'm happy to give some pointers. Cheers
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Postby Stu's Idle » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:01 pm

Erm, my fleet's background is basically Waaargh!

You get the idea.
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Postby Lavallin » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:05 pm

Kingpenguin wrote:Excellent responses so far. Could I ask that you all put together some back stories for your admirals? For the sake of continuity we'll be campaigning in and around the Auralian Gulf. Feel free to make up planets and station names as you see fit. Please PM them to me before the end of April so that I can put something together that is a surprise to you all. I will be trying to encorporate the campaign rules starting on page 148 in the BFG core rule book (trying being the key word). If you have any sub plots or anything narrative wise that you want to try and draw out of the campaign, please let me know and I will try to draw these out. Also if anyone wants to volunteer to prepare some terrain for narrative purposes, please feel free. I have made quite a bit myself, including a space cloth, so I'm happy to give some pointers. Cheers


Admiral Claudius Appolinaris began his career as an officer on escort vessels, with his first independent command the Sword Frigate Viridian II. He was briefly relived of his rank of Commander in 972.M41, following suspicions that his commitment to rooting out heresy and sedition was insufficent. He was reported as having said that "the fleet should concentrate on the Ork and Eldar pirates; those who have turned away from the just rule of the Imperium will sooner be brought back into line by wise diplomacy than by gunfire". An Inquisitorial hearing was convened, the proceedings of which remain sealed; however Commander Appolinaris was restored with full rank and privileges, and all charges were expunged.

Despite subsequently taking command of ships of the line, and ultimately a full sub-sector fleet, he retains a fondness and a respect for the smaller vessels under his command.

His current posting, held since 991.M41, is the commander of the Imperial fleets in the Misenum sub-sector. This region includes the valuable Forge Worlds of Stabiae IV and Capo Miseno, and the highly volcanic Adeptus Mechanicus Shrine World of Vesuvius; as such his sector fleet has a standing attachment of an AdMech Cruiser. Many of the vessels within his fleet have also been upgraded by the Tech Priests, with enhancements ranging from additional turrets through to enhanced fire control cogitators.

Sub-Magos Explorator Regulus regularly serves as Appolinaris' deputy at fleet occasions, and is rumoured to have significant input into the fleet's operational priorities and taskings. As such, any rumours of technological significant, including archaeotech sightings, will be enthusiastically pursued.
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Re: BFG Tournament/Campaign

Postby nightwing » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:11 pm

Lord Kalius Rex was once Brother-Captain Rex, loyal servant of the Emperor. Loyal to the Emperor, but far more loyal to his beloved Primarch Horus. Rex fought in the Great Crusade as a Lunar Wolf and then, much later, against his former brothers on Terra itself as a Son of Horus.

Following the death of Horus, Kalius Rex and the remaining members of his company commandeered a cruiser, the Widowmaker to escape Earth. Under Rex's command, the Widowmaker fought in the series of battles as the scattering chaos forces fled towards the Eye of Terror and the far reaches of the galaxy. Amongst various other notable atrocities in the long retreat, Rex led a cruiser formation in a hit and run attack on the shipyards at Alcion Prime, putting them out of action for nearly a decade, and slaughtered millions in the bombardment of hive cities on Melchior IV.

Still commanding Widowmaker, Kalius Rex was able to reach the rendezvous point on the Daemon World of Maeleum. Almost immediately, the Legion Wars broke out, and Widowmaker was crippled and lost fighting a rearguard action against the Emperors Children, although Rex was able to escape before his ship was destroyed. Swearing loyalty to Abaddon, Kalius Rex of the newly christened Black Legion and his handful of remaining marines were gifted a captured World Eaters cruiser. The newly renamed Widowmaker II under Lord Admiral Kalius Rex has seen much service in the Long War, fighting in 2 Black Crusades and devastating the worlds of the Ekente System in a decade long campaign, inflicting heavy losses on Imperial forces.

Kalius Rex is a follower of Chaos Undivided, preferring discipline over the uncontrollable rage or gibbering madness of many of his brethren- although he will happily fight alongside followers of any of the Chaos Gods in pursuit of his goals.

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