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Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:17 pm

Can anyone advise a manner to get these horses off their bases?

If I attack them with my saw I think I'll wear away most of the hoof. The only way I can think of is to cut off the base and file down anything remaining under the hooves, but that seems like it might take a while.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Azzabat » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:30 am

If you use a thin 'Gents Saw" http://www.axminster.co.uk/japanese-ext ... s-ax857211 cutting from either side at a slight downward angle, you should be able to separate the figure from the base fairly easily.
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:12 am

I thought it might be you who came through for me cj :-P

Add it happens I have that kind of saw. I just hadn't considered that angle of attack.

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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Azzabat » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:40 pm

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Always a pleasure my friend.

As I say you can cut around the hooves at a (roughly) 45 degree angle and then trim/sand off the excess. When I've done this before I've laid a fine grade sandpaper on the table, and then run the miniature across it, checking how much is left to take off after each stroke. This has the advantage of leaving the miniature with a flat, level footing (if you'll pardon the pun)

Just be careful if the legs are a bit thin or they can snap off if excess pressure is used.

Note: Clippers can also be used: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/12103410 ... ue&ff13=80

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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:58 pm

No dice. The saw wont fit from many angles and clipping it reveals that the legs are actually quite fragile. I think I might need to invest in one of those dremel things so I can apply cutting pressure without making jerky movements.

Can you make a recommendation for an entry level thingy?
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Azzabat » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:20 pm

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It depends if you want to go corded or cordless. I prefer corded as you get a more even and longer power usage. A really good one will set you back about £100, but if you use it a lot is well worth the investment.

You can pick up an "Own Brand" rotary tool like a Silverline for under £20 but I wouldn't recommend it. A Dremel is much better and better made.

The Dremel 200 is about £35 and is a good "Entry Level" multi tool. It takes all the existing Dremel attachments and has 2 speeds, 15,000rpm and 35,000rpm.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dremel-200-Mult ... dremel+200

Mine is an (old) 5 speed Model 395 but I rarely use speeds 3-5. I do have the piller drill and router table attachments for it which is why I went for the variable speed (10,000rpm - 33,000rpm)

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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:53 pm

Awesome, thanks!

Weird that it doesn't come with a cutting head though.
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Azzabat » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:45 am

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It all depends what you get, and where you get it from. If you shop around you get some 'kits' where it's all in a handy case with a variety of accessories.

Check out Dremels UK website here: http://www.dremeleurope.com/gb/en/ and have a look around the inter web for the best deals and check out places like Amazon.

B&Q do kits for £35 http://www.diy.com/departments/dremel-c ... icamp=recs

Do watch out when you use one as, by their very rotary nature, they can easily run away and carve into the thing you are cutting. Always cut in the direction the blade is spinning (it should feel as if it's trying to run away from you and 'skip off' whatever you are cutting) They can also be a bit "heavy handed" spinning at several thousand revs. They require a gently touch, but have a play with them, they're wonderful bits of kit.
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Stu's Idle » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:58 am

I think gently using a razor saw should do the trick. I doubt you'd lose much of the hooves, about 0.1mm at most. Just apply very light pressure and let the saw do the work... assuming its not blunt of course.
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:56 am

Wait, are the fibreglass cutoff wheels cutting heads then? I thought they were sanders.
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Stu's Idle » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:49 am

I'm referring to a hand-saw, not a dremel.
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Azzabat » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:55 am

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Yes, they are generally brown and look like very thin circular discs. http://www.needtrains.com/images/420.gif

As Stu said, I'd be surprised if you couldn't do it with a gent saw. Perhaps try cutting from the underside of the base, then filing away the excess.

Is it an urgent job? if not bring them into the Duke when you're free and I'll have a look for you. I have dreamless and gents saws and I'm pretty sure Stu does too.

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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:22 pm

It turned out the knees were weak points...

In the end the dremmel was surplus to requirements as the cutter turned out to not be very effective - especially with the aforementioned weak points - but owning one now means I am A Man (TM) and I'm sure it'll come in handy once my conveyancers get their S*** together...

Anyway, PICS FOR THE PICS GOD.

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They got a bit mangled in the process. I had to pin two hooves back in place, and they're going to need retouching where the paint rubbed off...
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Re: Separating some figures from their bases

Postby Wiggles » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:30 pm

You can find the finished product, along with a group shot of my entire force here
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